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Goin' to the dogs

Guard_dogThe CTA Insider shares a story about guard dog that he/she says has been making the rounds of CTA employees:

"There has been a story making the rounds: This guy on a brown line train supposedly tells a K9 patrol guy, "I have all kinds of dogs." And as he's trying to pet the dog the officer tells him to back off.

"The guy then says, "Hey I'm good with dogs, watch!" He leans in and reaches for the dog.  The dog goes off on him trying to get to the guy, barking and snarling. The cop says the dog only does this when he 'hits' on something. So they searched the guys and it turns out he was carrying coke and weed."

As News of the Weird would say: Most Incompetent Criminal.

Post a comment below if you have a question for the CTA Insider.

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I have a question fot the "cta insider". Do the Securitas (security) people cover all the EL stations, or just a few stations on certain lines? I dont recall ever seeing any of these people, ever. Thanks

I call bull. Why would the CTA dogs be drug dogs? Makes no sense. Bomb dogs, I could see.

I agree with Brian. I think "Police" dogs are only trained to do one thing, whether it's search for bombs, drugs, or to track and detain, per se, suspects. I would think that bomb and guard dogs would be the most useful for protecting CTA riders, although the drug dogs would probably stay pretty busy.

Uhmm...

who exactly searched this guy? Was it a private security firm (Securitas)? Or the CPD ?
Is the implication that Securitas can detain and search you if their dogs register a "hit"? Is part of their responsibility to check for people who are holding?

This story seems a bit disturbing if it was in fact a private security guard. One would think they would need more reason to detain someone than a barking dog.
And furthermore, what is more responsible than a user riding public transportation?? Why discourage that? Better on the train/bus than driving in a car right?

Also, why would the dog only register a "hit" after the guy tried to pet if a couple of times? I mean, last time I got caught by a drug sniffing dog, he sniffed out me from a good 30 - 40 feet away. This dog should have responded right away, no??

But I call shenanigans! I don't believe it really happened. At least not the way its described.

The Securitas dogs are not drug dogs. If they were, they'd be "hitting" on passengers on every train! And if this was a CPD K9, I hope that is a rare occurence. The last thing we need are drug dogs on the el. If people on my train are holding, I feel safer knowing they WILL NOT be accosted by a K9. Sometimes I wonder how many people on my train are holding drugs or (worse) guns.

Back in about 1971 or so, I was on what is now the Blue Line going to UIC from the Des Plaines (Forest Park) stop. At Oak Park an unaccompanied German Shepherd boards the train, stalking up and down the aisle until it finally lays down next to the doors. At Austin the doors swing open, startling the dog, which proceeds to jump out onto the platform just as two older women are boarding. The women scream and start fleeing down the platform with the dog chasing after them. The conductor shuts the doors and the train leaves them running for their lives down the platform. Just another day for the CTA.

A couple of questions for the CTA Insider:

As the Evanston Express heads to Belmont in the morning, I keep seeing crews hosing down Red Line platforms. (It looks like they're using high-power hoses.) Why does the CTA schedule this -- which makes about half the length of the platform inaccessible to commuters -- during rush hour? It seems like it would be much better to start it at 9 or 10.

Also, last week, during the evening rush (I was on the NB Purple Line), as the train met up with the Red Line tracks, I noticed groups of people in CTA uniforms standing on the side of the ramp on the SB side. (They didn't seem to be doing anything, but since trains were passing by right next to them, that's understandable.) One day, I saw a line of them trying to climb down the ladder at the end of the Armitage platform to get onto the tracks (some of them were overweight enough to be unable to do this without a lot of help). Was this a training exercise? I'm just curious because I've never seen that happen before.

I am a CTA k-9 officer and guess what my Dog happens to be a dual trained Narcotics and attack dog, so to all yall who say there are no drug dogs on CTA, your wrong.

Joe, nobody said there are no drugs on the CTA. In fact, the majority of the comments here agree that not only are there drugs on the CTA, but there are A LOT of drugs on the CTA (and, quite possibly, guns). The issue at hand is the discomfort in the idea that an underqualified/poorly trained employee of a private security company is allowed (if what you say is true) exercise the authority of trained law enforcement officers.

For clarification, Joe wrote that there are drug DOGS-not drugs-on the CTA.

Also, since it's too costly to have cops patrolling throughout the system, I think security guards with dogs is a fairly effective deterrent to would-be muggers, etc. Like any other profession, some guards, and probably some dogs, are better than others.

I see, bk. My mistake, thanks.

Deterring muggers is something that I would think is in the job description of all security guard positions. I have no problem with that. I wouldnt even mind the idea that the guards are there to prevent the USE of drugs and the consumption of alcohol, beverages, food, etc. It's when they presume to excercise the authority of a REAL cop that I'm a bit concerned. If someone is transporting, say, an ounce of marijuana, concealed in his coat, then that's the CPD's problem. If that person makes it the entire ride without so much as tampering with it, then it's of no danger or harm to the CTA. I welcome the guards to detain the jerks that can be found using drugs on the train, but having dogs on board to "hunt" these people is...unnerving.

I know this is a little late but i wanted to respond to rexblade about underqualified/poorly trained officers..at this current time the k9 unit is in the proccess of certifying as members of the U.S. POLICE k9 association, most of are officers are either off duty, retired or former law enforcement personal, I happent to have 6 years in the us millitary two of those years as a millitary police officer so dont worry about the k9 unit being undertrained.

lets talk about how these k.9 officers are underpaid disrespected and threatend every day this is not a easy job this job is very demanding these officers are not appreciated by ther fellow pears so lets show these officer some kind of respect and thanks the people they work for dont appreciate them but these officer face life and death situation every day for your safty

I think the problem is that there is not enough transparency with the Securitas dogs and their handlers.

Just what are they doing there? I think all of us assume the dogs are sniffing for bombs and not drugs - but who knows? There doesn't seem to be any explanation.

Wasn't there a story out a few weeks back that claimed the Securitas people weren't doing their job by just hopping on and off trains?

>>these officers are not appreciated by ther
>>fellow pears

Yeah, my fellow pears never appreciate me either. Now my apples and oranges on the other hand... they are my fan club.

first & formost i was working for securitas k9 unit for years they are not bomb/drug dogs. they are just attack dogs& they have 75 dogs + every shift diffent dogs come out.

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