Verizon cellers now can get their tunnel fix
Verizon wireless customers recently joined their US Cellular counterparts in the joys of subway celling.
Whoopie.
Verizon is paying the CTA about $28,000 a month in a 10-year contract to use its subway telecom infrastructure to offer its customer the ability to chat, text and surf on its network underground, just as US Cellular customers have been able to do for more than two years.
On the whole, I think it's great for the CTA to get this additional income, even if it means I have to listen to someone screaming into her cell phone as we round the bend at top speed heading north to North and Clybourn.
But I do like the ability to text and surf the Net while in the subway. I only wonder why it has taken so long to sign up Verizon, and when the other major cell firms -- AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint -- will strike their own deals.
Start date for SRO rail cars. The Sun-Times reports that the standing room only train cars should debut in late October or early November. As first reported here, two of eight cars on the Brown Line during rush hour will have the seats removed to increase capacity.
Don't forget that Verizon and US Cellular are CDMA providers. Therefore, it might be logical for Sprint to get into the action, but if the other carriers want to provide service, they'll have to add the GSM infrastructure.
Posted by: Adam | September 04, 2008 at 09:20 AM
While Sprint may not have its own service there, Sprint users have been able to roam on the US Cellular network since the beginning.
Posted by: John | September 04, 2008 at 09:50 AM
How can you talk anyway when the trains are louder than a bratty 13 year old screaming.
Posted by: Maxwell | September 04, 2008 at 10:27 AM
I think the important part of this is that you can get data service and can use text messaging, etc. Phone talking is only useful in the subway when you are waiting for the train.
Posted by: chris | September 04, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Speaking of car debuts - anyone have any idea about when the new "5000" cars are supposed to start delivery?
Posted by: eric | September 04, 2008 at 11:16 AM
According to Chicago-l.org, who follow all things CTA rolling stock very closely, the first 10 prototypes of the new cars will be delivered by the end of this year, 2008, and will undergo 9 months of testing (cold and hot weather, LED screens in the cars, new and exciting AC traction power!). Then the first regular ~200 cars are to be delivered by 2010, and another ~200, depending on capital funding -ugh-, in 2012.
Posted by: Kiel | September 04, 2008 at 11:48 AM
Speaking as someone who hates hearing people jabber on their phones nonstop, i'm not looking forward to this "service improvement".
There has been talk in the past about the CTA possible providing a "Quiet Car" for those that would prefer a somewhat more relaxing atmosphere.
Since US Cellular and Verizon are paying leasing fees for the privilege of me getting updates on Chad and Trixie's latest weekend adventure, can the CTA actually implement a Quiet Car without pissing off the cell companies? I would think that this would devalue the contract they agreed to.
Not looking forward to the oblivious idiots juggling their coffee, ipods and phones, texting away, as they try to hold onto a pole in one of the new SRO cars.
Posted by: crankyd | September 04, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Do you guys just hate when people talk on the train in general? Because that's all people on cell phones are doing. Sometimes people are just annoying no matter what they're doing -- it's not the cell phone that causes it..
Posted by: Joe Blow | September 04, 2008 at 03:05 PM
Joe Blow, this isn't your first trip to Tattlerville. You should already know we don't like anything we aren't doing when we're not doing it how we do it. Enjoy the ride. ;)
Posted by: Martha | September 04, 2008 at 10:07 PM
As I recall, it took so long because US Cellular had an exclusive contract for the first two years. Now that the contract has expired, other providers can take part.
Posted by: Charles M. | September 05, 2008 at 03:37 AM
Oh please. There have been studies done that prove that cell phone talking is more annoying than a conversation between two people. Your brain tries to fill in the other side of the conversation and it makes it harder to ignore. It's not the same. And anyone who makes that argument must be glued to their phone all the time and are tired of the nasty looks they get.
As far as a Quiet Car - people don't obey the rules NOW, on ANY car. There would be no way to enforce a Quiet Car.
Posted by: Sara | September 05, 2008 at 08:25 AM
Wow, I thought the "trixie" and "chad" generalizations were retired about five years ago.
Posted by: m | September 05, 2008 at 12:53 PM
CTA says they are working to bring the other cell providers to the tunnels as well so y'all have that to look forward to. I see a lot of people with tmobile phones close em up as the train goes down below.
and trixies and chads are still around. the chad term isn't used as widely as trixie though.
Posted by: Jason | September 06, 2008 at 03:36 AM
This has probably been discussed but: What happened to the New York-style test cars with the seats in a long row down either side, leaving the center of the car open? That seems like a lot better idea than SRO cars. Plus, you can avoid the whole having-to-step-over-the-person-in-outer-seat thing.
Posted by: Snarla | September 06, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Actually, Joe Blow, the reason cell phone conversations are more annoying than in-person conversations is pretty well understood. An in-person conversation quickly becomes part of the noise floor because it's a fairly regular and rhythmic pattern. The cell phone conversation isn't. Every time the cell phone user who's nearby says something, it recaptures our attention anew, because there's been an unpredictable lag since the last time she or he spoke.
Posted by: Bob S. | September 07, 2008 at 09:41 PM
Just a FYI,
I was messing around with my Verizon phone this morning on my SB commute and I don't think the service is ready for prime time yet.
I was able to get a signal from the tunnel entrance to Clark/Division and then lost it until just before State/Lake.
KevinB
Posted by: KevinB | September 10, 2008 at 09:30 AM
As of yesterday my Sprint phone isn't roaming onto US Cellular in the subway anymore. It shows a signal and a roaming indicator, and it will ring if you place a call, but you get a message that the call can't go through from this location. Once you get above ground, before the phone switches back to Sprint service, it works fine on US Cellular roaming.
I don't know if this is an accidental problem or something that was done intentionally. It seems to be internal to the US Cellular network.
Posted by: Alfonso Bedoya | September 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM